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Z: licorice tincture

From: iap
Date: 15 Feb 2001
Time: 19:10:08
Remote Name: 128.193.168.144

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Re: Cost of Licorice Extract

From: bitterman
Date: 02 Mar 2001
Time: 15:45:38
Remote Name: 152.163.206.181

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At $9 - $10 per fluid oz. this stuff gets expensive. You'd need approximately 20 fluid ounces to equal the 500 ml of water (if you are replacing water w/licorice extract). How much licorice extract are you guys using/adding to the list of ingredients? Anyone adding Niacin to the mix and if so, getting any better results

Re: Cost of Licorice Extract

From: bitterman
Date: 02 Mar 2001
Time: 15:48:00
Remote Name: 152.163.206.181

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Correction: you'd need about 8 fl. oz. to substitute the 500 ml of water, if you are talking about replacing the water completely w/ the extract.

Waseda: Licorice Tincture = Licorice Extract?

From: Stoon
Date: 15 Mar 2001
Time: 06:51:30
Remote Name: 24.71.122.14

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Waseda,

I would like to purchase some licorice tincture to add to my ZnO treatment. Is Licorice Extract the same thing as the tincture? Just wondering because I phoned a hebalist in my city, and they said they are the same thing.

Thanks,

Stoon

I'm not Waseda, but I can answer your question

From: BaldyBill
Date: 15 Mar 2001
Time: 07:41:34
Remote Name: 168.39.181.239

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The word "extract" is often used synonymously with "tincture" in herbal medicine. But not all extracts are tinctures. In these modern times there are highly developed methods of extracting the desired compounds from organic substances. For example, Saw Palmetto extract typically has it's active ingredients reduced to a standard of around 7:1.

For your purposes however regarding licorice extract, yes, it's the same as tincture

Re: WASEDA – ADDING LICORICE EXTRACT TO SOUHAKUHI AND MINOX

From: waseda
Date: 17 Mar 2001
Time: 09:25:34
Remote Name: 211.132.36.12

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Paul, if you will use Souhakuhi-extract, you need not add licorice extract, because normal making Souhakuhi already includes licorice in it. But if you won't use Souhakuhi, it's good idea to add licorice extract to minox. No need of extra alcohol. Minox products(other than Xandrox12.5%) usually contain enough alcohol.

Your regimen is very similar to that of people who posted as "I am on the way to recovery using ....." in our country except spiro solution

Re: WASEDA - Boosting revivogen?

From: waseda
Date: 20 Mar 2001
Time: 09:19:04
Remote Name: 211.120.76.2

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I think only 1200mg( is it right? it's not 12000mg) procyanidin could be not so difficult to dissolve. Try to add it bit by bit.

Licorice extract (or tincture) is used for anti-allegy and wet-keeping of skin. You need not worry about the exact concentration. 1ml/treatment will be enough for this use

Re: WASEDA Difference in licorce

From: waseda
Date: 20 Mar 2001
Time: 13:11:26
Remote Name: 211.120.76.2

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Paul, you may be confused.

Souhakuhi----main ingredient is Souhakuhi (mulberry bark root)

Morehairin----main ingredient is procyanidin

licorice is supporting actor in both cases, though it is necessary

your question about licorice extract

From: BaldyBill
Date: 21 Mar 2001
Time: 12:37:55
Remote Name: 168.39.181.130

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You can buy it at any decent sized health food store or buy it on the internet. It will cost roughly $7.50 for 1 ounce, or you can make it yourself and it costs roughly $7.50 for 32 ounces. But if money's no object, buy the ready made product. One problem though, the home made stuff is better. Do you have a quart jar 

If you live in NYC I would imagine that

From: BaldyBill
Date: 21 Mar 2001
Time: 15:07:08
Remote Name: 168.39.181.130

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there must be a huge inventory of health food stores or herb shops that would accomodate you. I live in a city of about 1 million and I know of about 6 places off the top of my head where I can buy it in bulk. Or, you can buy it over the internet. Try this site where I buy many of my herbs- www.herbco.com (sorry, I haven't had success posting links on this site for some reason) Licorice root powder is a whopping $3.00 a lb, or $1.20 for 1/4 lb. Cheap, cheap stuff.

Shake the jar twice a day, but I'll tell you this about the time it takes before it's ready - 2 weeks at a minimum, but the longer the better. My herbal extracts take 10 weeks before I feel they are maximum strength

Licorice and PCO- Waseda

From: Strasslers
Date: 21 Mar 2001
Time: 12:48:39
Remote Name: 38.164.64.3

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Is the licorice root sold by beyond-a-century.com ok for making the tincture? Also, I already bought the activin PCO a few months ago and I want to make the right mixture for topical use. I saw your post about it not being the best product to use for this purpose, but I was wondering if you could tell me what amounts to mix into and everclear solution because I didn't understand all the numbers in that post. Thanks for all the help.

Carl

Re: Licorice and PCO- Waseda

From: waseda
Date: 21 Mar 2001
Time: 22:55:26
Remote Name: 61.114.202.162

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Avtivin PCO can be used of course, though a bit troublesome.

Activin includes 60/400 of Grape Seed Extract in it. This is the basic of the calculation. If you want 100mg/day GSE, target stuff for 100 days use needs 10g of GSE, which amounts to 10*(400/60)=67g of Activin.

You have only to add it in 50% 400ml alcoholic water solution with licorice extract. This might be made of everclear. Licoerice extract can be gotten from

http://www.lifesvigor.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=7&
Section_Id=&pcount=&Product_Id=101952&pageid=FIRST&curpage=
1&Section.String1=&Section.String2=

Plus red wine 20ml. That's all

Re: what is licorice extract

From: waseda
Date: 22 Mar 2001
Time: 03:51:47
Remote Name: 211.120.79.180

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See:

http://www.lifesvigor.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=7&
Section_Id=&pcount=&Product_Id=101952&pageid=FIRST&curpage=
1&Section.String1=&Section.String2=

A vitalizing herbal tonic. Licorice (Glycyrrhiza Glabra) is a sweet herb that possesses significant anti-inflammatory properties. Licorice may be helpful for adrenal insufficiencies or exhaustion, allergies, headaches, Addison disease, colds, soothes coughs, bronchitis, laryngitis, pharyngitis, liver protectant, female complaints, stomach inflammation and ulcers, colitis, hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia, immune weakness and lung problems. Usage: 1-2 ml, 3 times daily.

Re: Sorry Waseda, once more

From: waseda
Date: 22 Mar 2001
Time: 10:53:49
Remote Name: 211.132.32.232

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Average licorice extract can be thought as it was extracted from 20% root /total volume. We need 10g of licorice root if we maked it by boiling.

This means we need 'licorice root extract fluid' as much as 10/0.2=50ml for 100 days use of our hair growth stuff.

This product contains 2oz=120ml fluid. Rouhly, you need add a half of the bottle to your simple making without boiling process.

It costs 7/2=$3.5( except shipping). This may be high cost-performance making

Re: Sorry Waseda, once more

From: waseda
Date: 22 Mar 2001
Time: 12:23:47
Remote Name: 211.132.33.166

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OOOps, 2 Oz=60ml.

Then you must use up the bottle for 100 days.

Excuse me, I was also wrong in the price. It's $13.69. Hmmmm, $13.69 for 100 days use, it will be rather expensive

To Waseda: Liquid Licorice Extract Version of Morehairin

From: Z
Date: 29 Mar 2001
Time: 10:14:11
Remote Name: 148.126.100.80

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Waseda

Would be kind enough to repost the Liquid Licorice Extract version of Morehairin? If I'm not mistaken this version does not involve boiling of the ingredients.

Thanks very much in advance and I apologize for the repetitive nature of this post

Re: To Waseda: Liquid Licorice Extract Version of Morehairin

From: waseda
Date: 29 Mar 2001
Time: 12:47:55
Remote Name: 211.13.143.127

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As the licorice extract is the secondary factor, you may modify the amount of liquid and for 100 days use, use up to one bottle (that is you may use lesser):

http://www.lifesvigor.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=7&
Section_Id=&pcount=&Product_Id=101952&pageid=FIRST&curpage=
1&Section.String1=&Section.String2=

You must use GSE powder at least 10g for 100 day use in *net terms*. This means if your capsule includes ie. 100 mg GSE and 200mg rosehip, you have to use 10000/100=100 capsules. Thus, you must ignore the rosehip powder. 10g-15g use per 100 days is the point. Things besides it are all secondary matters.

The total volume of solution is 420ml=400ml (water+alconol+licorice extract liquid(one bottle)) + 20ml (red wine) and the alcoholic concentration is about (don't be nervous) 50%.

If your capsule contains unnecessary powder other than GSE and the solution comes to be muddy, you may add some water.

Stir the mixture before using and you apply the top clear layer. The effect will appear within 2 weeks and you can see the hairs thickened or eloangated

Once more please :-) (wasRe: To Waseda: Liquid Licorice Extract Version of Morehairin)

From:
Date: 29 Mar 2001
Time: 14:03:36
Remote Name: 148.126.100.80

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Waseda, thank you again for your reply and patience.

A few more questions, if you would please. You wrote:

>The total volume of solution is 420ml=400ml(water+alconol+licorice extract liquid(one >bottle)) + >20ml (red wine) and the alcoholic >concentration is about (don't be nervous) 50%.

The Licorice Extract bottle in the previous link is 59 ml. If the concentration of alcohol is 50%, then 210 ml of this solution should be water and licorice. Subtracting 59 ml from 210 ml tells us that we should use 151 ml of water. Is this correct?

Furthermore, the following GSE: http://www.health-pages.com/op/

already has 30 mg of red wine per capsule. One hundred capsules of this brand of GSE will give us 3000 mg or 3 grams of red wine. I wonder if this is a bit too much or not.

Finally, I take it by alcohol you are referring to 210 ml of ethyl alcohol. Correct?

Once again thank you very much in advance

Also ...(wasRe: To Waseda: Liquid Licorice Extra...

From: Z
Date: 29 Mar 2001
Time: 14:05:41
Remote Name: 148.126.100.80

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Would addition of 5 grams of Perilla Extract and if available, 5 grams of Senburi alter the previous ratios of the ingredients? I take it a bit more alcohol, licorice and water would be needed

to Z, about perilla and Senburi

From: waseda
Date: 30 Mar 2001
Time: 06:33:11
Remote Name: 211.120.79.94

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When one uses licorice extract liquid product, the problem of adding perilla and Senburi arises.

Please remember two principles.

1) effective constituent of perilla leaf is *water-soluble*.

2) effective constiuent of Senburi (=Swertiol) is *fat-slouble*.

Then it is preferable to boil and exract for perilla leaf, and to extract Senburi with (extremely condensed) alcohol. Easy way of extract both of them altogeher is to boil them enough to extract. This is the method I originally demonstrated.

If you boil perilla and extract Senburi seperately,

5g perilla leaf : water 150ml------(boil)---->50ml solution (in short, evaporate water enough)---> add it to Morehairin with 25ml ethanol (this is not exact but don't mind).

5g Senburi + 70ml ethanol ---(extraction for one month) =very strong stimulator!!----> add it to your any existing hair grower.

If you boil them altogether 5g+5g+200ml(water)--(boil for over 30 min.)-->50ml--->add it with 25ml ethanol to your Morehairin.

Z, if you can get Senburi and make Senburi extract, it will be a magical reinforcer of any hair growth products, Revivogen, Rogaine, etc

Re: Once more please :-) (wasRe: To Waseda: Liquid Licorice Extra...

From: waseda
Date: 30 Mar 2001
Time: 06:09:30
Remote Name: 211.132.35.52

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Though licorice extract contains some alcohol and we must consider that amount exactly,

<<use 151 ml of water>>

will be appropriate.

Wine extract itself includes quercetin other than procyanidin, you don't worry about *too much* wine. It's good for your hairs.

<<210 ml of ethyl alcohol.>>

Yes, this is correct.

And if the resultant solution is too muddy, you may add some water or wine

Warning on Licorice Extract

From: Should we?
Date: 01 Apr 2001
Time: 16:31:30
Remote Name: 24.234.246.224

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Here is the study from the New England Journal of Medicine about Licorice

The New England Journal of Medicine -- October 7, 1999 -- Vol. 341, No. 15

Reduction of Serum Testosterone in Men by Licorice

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To the Editor:

Extracts of licorice root are widely used in many countries as flavoring agents, breath fresheners, or candy. The active component of licorice is glycyrrhizic acid, which is hydrolyzed in vivo to glycyrrhetinic acid. The well-known mineralocorticoid-like effect of licorice results from the inhibition of 11(beta)-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, the enzyme that catalyzes the conversion of cortisol to cortisone, thereby minimizing the binding of cortisol to mineralocorticoid receptors. (1) Licorice may also directly activate mineralocorticoid receptors. (2) In vitro, licorice can block 17(beta)-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, which catalyzes the conversion of androstenedione to testosterone. (3)

We evaluated the effect of licorice on gonadal function in seven normal men, 22 to 24 years of age. The men were given 7 g daily of a commercial preparation of licorice in the form of tablets (Saila, Bologna, Italy) containing 0.5 g of glycyrrhizic acid, as determined by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry; the effect on the metabolism of mineralocorticoids in these men was reported previously. (2) Serum testosterone, androstenedione, and 17-hydroxyprogesterone were measured by radioimmunoassay before and after four and seven days of administration of licorice and four days after it was discontinued. During the period of licorice administration, the men's serum testosterone concentrations decreased and their serum 17-hydroxyprogesterone concentrations increased (Table 1).

These results demonstrate that licorice inhibits both 17(beta)-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase and 17,20-lyase, which catalyzes the conversion of 17-hydroxyprogesterone to androstenedione. The amounts of licorice given to these men are eaten by many people. Thus, men with decreased libido or other sexual dysfunction, as well as those with hypertension, should be questioned about licorice ingestion

Re: Warning on Licorice Extract

From: waseda
Date: 01 Apr 2001
Time: 17:24:24
Remote Name: 211.132.33.111

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This is one reason why almost (Japanese) hair loss products include licorice extract or glycyrrhetinic acid topically in them.

From long use of Chinese traditinal herbal medicines, it is well known that oral intake of licorice root is safe if it is within 1g per day. This means oral safe licorice for 100 days is 100g.

Souhakuhi-extract, Moreharin use licorice extract (topically) 10g-30g per 100days use. This equals 1/10-1/3 of orally safe intake of licorice amount. It's safe enough but may be insufficient for MPB with excessive testosterone. But I prefer to safety.

On the similar basis, 1 oz licorice root extract per 100 days use is safe enough.

But, I must say licorice should be taken topically but not orally as well as Grape Seed Extract for hair loss men

The licorice in this study was taken orally Re: Warning on Licorice Extract

From: Thanks
Date: 01 Apr 2001
Time: 17:24:32
Remote Name: 206.29.197.150

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Licorice???

From: Jason
Date: 04 Apr 2001
Time: 23:28:21
Remote Name: 216.212.40.33

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I have order Chinese Licorice and received cut slivers of a root. Is this the right stuff you boil to make Morehairin? Or do I need an extract?

Jason

Re: Licorice???

From: shasmi
Date: 04 Apr 2001
Time: 23:59:11
Remote Name: 195.92.194.15

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there`s a picture of gan cao at ancientway.com. waseda also suggested chewing the root, it should taste sweet. it sounds like the right stuff

Re: Licorice???

From: Z
Date: 05 Apr 2001
Time: 09:18:03
Remote Name: 148.126.100.80

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It depends how you will use this. If you are following Waseda's direction explicitly, then I believe the root will be sufficient.

However I'm subsituting Dermovan for alcohol so I will need the extract version of these herbs