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How bayberry + GSS work--an estimation

From: waseda
Date: 26 Apr 2001
Time: 12:57:49
Remote Name: 211.120.77.162

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[1]. Though I have no data comparing the effect of bayberry with that of Finasteride, but I can estimate the effect of bayberry from oxendolone data.

Oxendolone (=16beta-ethyl-17beta-hydroxy-4-estren-3-one=TSAA-291)is a famous drug for BPH and is included in a hair loss product. As bayberry study refers to comparison of bayberry with oxendolene and luckily we can know the human data of oxendolone in the hair loss product, we can exactly recognize the possible potency of bayberry.

According to paper (1), inhibition rates of testostelone-stimulated growth of pigmented macules of hamster flank organ of bayberry and oxendolone were:

bayberry: 39%

oxendolone: 34%.

But, in sudy of in vivo topical hair gowth scores of mouse (25 days), we can calculate the effective rate of bayberry as 82% of oxendolone from Fig. 2 (1).

Though flank organ of hamster study indicates bayberry is stronger than oxendolone, we had better adopt the figure of in vivo mouse hair growth study, 82%.

On the other hand, these are patent's data of oxendolone:

United States Patent H1,551 Tsuchiya June 4, 1996

Topical composition and method for reducing hair loss from human scalp

Abstract

The present invention concerns a novel hair grower without exerting undesirable side-effects, which is topically applicable. The hair grower contains a maximum of about 2% of oxendolone in combination with a topically applicable vehicle or carrier, if desired, with further conventional additives. (http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1='H1551'.WKU.&OS=PN/H1551&RS=PN/H1551)

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(23) Summary of the Cases

1 MPB

The duration until manifestation of the effect:

______________________________________ Time Number of Persons % ______________________________________

1-2 weeks 3 6.7

3-4 weeks 3 6.7

1-2 months 14 31.1

2-3 months 4 8.9

3-4 months 6 13.3

more than 4 months

2 4.4 ______________________________________

Changes in individual symptoms:

______________________________________

Symptoms Number of Persons %

______________________________________

1. Decrease in hair loss

25 75.8

2. Regrowth of downy hair

16 48.5

3. Regrowth of thick hair

7 21.2

4. Decrease in itching sensation

6 18.2

5. Decrease in dandruff

3 9.1

6. Decrease in the sebum

1 3.0

______________________________________

2 Alopecia areata

This condition was observed in 41 cases consisting of 16 males (39%) and 25 females (61%).

Duration until manifestation of the effect:

______________________________________

Time Number of Persons % ______________________________________

less than one month

19 54.3

2-3 months 15 42.9

4-5 months 1 2.9

______________________________________

Changes of individual symptoms:

______________________________________

Symptoms Number of Persons %

______________________________________

Regrowth of soft hair

33 94.3

Regrowth of thick hair

10 28.6

Decrease in hair loss

6 17.1

Decrease in itching sensation

2 5.7

Increased perspiration

1 2.9

______________________________________

Then we can estimate the effect of bayberry alone as 82% of these figures. If I have to choose one of oxedolone and bayberry for long time use of anti-androgen, I prefer bayberry because it has no systemic side effect.

[2]. GSS contains S-maltoside. According to mouse with DHT data, topical 1% S-maltoside inhibited DHT by 63.1% and MPB human topical 0.1% S-maltoside effect was greater than 1% minoxidil.

As you may feel, we want another potent anti-androgenic stuff other than bayberry+GSS and I think that is just spironolactone topical solution. My imagination is if we apply

bayberry + GSS + spironolactone topical solution

we can omit Finasteride altogether.

(1) H. Matsuda et. al. Anti-androgenic Activity of Myricae Cortex--Isolation of Active Constituents from Bark of Myrica rubra, Biol. Pharm. Bull. 24(3), 259-263, March, 2001.

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